hi, im trying to find a good book, or software that i can buy to learn mandarin. But i really want to LEARN it, im not interested in all that "learn mandarin in only 30 days or your money back" crap (which apparantly is the only type of language books all borders and barnes and nobles sell). If anyone could recommend a moderate priced great way to learn the language (i dont mean just conversational mandarin, but also grammer, reading, writing, pronunciation, etc.)
thanks
-nelson
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