ought: /oi5/
body: /won2 sin1/
back: /poi5 long2/
spider: /la2 k'ia2/
enter: /lok8/
son: /lai5 tsu1/
baby: /o1 nga2/
/ngia3 jong3/
/an2 jong3/
fashionable /hin1/
but: /t'an3 he5/
logical: /hap8 li1/
want: /oi5/
I'll post more translations later...
Translations
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Thomas Chin
Translations
In my Bao'an variant:
ought: /oi5/
or /jin5 koi1/ 
or /jin5 koi1 oi5/ 
body: /won2 sin1/
. Literary reading for the first char is fun2, colloquial reading wun2 (turbid) and won2 (entire). In my variant /won2 sin2/ means (1) the body (2) the whole body. Vu sin could be a variant??
back: /poi5 long2/
spider: /la2 k'ia2/
, spider's web: /la2 k'ia2 miong3/ 
enter: /lok8/
son: /lai5 tsu1/
. I do not use /lai5 tsai3/, but I suppose that would be 
baby: /o1 nga2/
or /o1 nga2 tsai3/ 
/ngia3 jong3/
/an2 jong3/
but these are area-dependent, e.g. we use /an2 nung3/ 
instead
fashionable /hin1/
(same as Cantonese)
but: /t'an3 he5/
, or same as mandarin /put7 ko5/
logical: /hap8 li1/
want: /oi5/
I'll post more translations later...
ought: /oi5/
body: /won2 sin1/
back: /poi5 long2/
spider: /la2 k'ia2/
enter: /lok8/
son: /lai5 tsu1/
baby: /o1 nga2/
/ngia3 jong3/
/an2 jong3/
fashionable /hin1/
but: /t'an3 he5/
logical: /hap8 li1/
want: /oi5/
I'll post more translations later...
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Thomas Chin
Re: Translations
Some more translations:
/jin5 sin2/
= promise
/kui1 ki3/
= rule; regulation
/li1 ju2/
or /jen2 ku5/ 
= reason
/ts'o5/
= mistake; wrong
/t'en5 siu3/
= to help
/an2/ or /an5/
/
= very (borrowed char)
/t'i3 ts'at8/
or /wong2 ts'at8/ 
= cockroach
/ken1/
= to follow
/t'en2/
= to follow
/piang5/
= hide
/k'ong3/
= hide
/lui2/
= money
/moi2/
= porridge
/min2 tsau1 ngit7/
or /t'en1 kong1 ngit7/ 
= tomorrow
/sak7/
= side
/tso3 sak7/
or /tso3 siu3 sak7/ 
= left side
/kiak7/
/
= fast (I've seen them both being used, don't know which one is correct.
/ts'a1/
= to carry with hand
/sen1 ts'i5/
= fun
/pit7/
= crack, break
/ts'ut8/
= rub, erase (with eraser)
/t'ak7/
= to tie
/sung3/
= push
more later ...
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/jin5 sin2/
/kui1 ki3/
/li1 ju2/
/ts'o5/
/t'en5 siu3/
/an2/ or /an5/
/t'i3 ts'at8/
/ken1/
/t'en2/
/piang5/
/k'ong3/
/lui2/
/moi2/
/min2 tsau1 ngit7/
/sak7/
/tso3 sak7/
/kiak7/
/ts'a1/
/sen1 ts'i5/
/pit7/
/ts'ut8/
/t'ak7/
/sung3/
more later ...
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FM Liew
Re: Translations
Thomas,
/lok8/ is not enter. It suppose to be descend( coming down or fall ).
Enter, in my 'Taibo Hak' is: yip or yip-ki.
/lok8/ is not enter. It suppose to be descend( coming down or fall ).
Enter, in my 'Taibo Hak' is: yip or yip-ki.
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Thomas Chin
Re: Translations
Hi,
It depends on the Hakka variant. In Bao'an and Dongguan areas (and probably more areas) /lok8/ is used for both descend and enter. To enter is /lok8 loi2/ or /lok8 hi5/. In this context in some variants, i.e. my own, /jip8/ (or the equivalent /ngip8/) is not used commonly or not used at all.
It's very interesting and funny to note these and many of such differences in all the variants.
Regards,
Thomas Chin
FM Liew wrote:
> Thomas,
> /lok8/ is not enter. It suppose to be descend( coming down or
> fall ).
>
> Enter, in my 'Taibo Hak' is: yip or yip-ki.
It depends on the Hakka variant. In Bao'an and Dongguan areas (and probably more areas) /lok8/ is used for both descend and enter. To enter is /lok8 loi2/ or /lok8 hi5/. In this context in some variants, i.e. my own, /jip8/ (or the equivalent /ngip8/) is not used commonly or not used at all.
It's very interesting and funny to note these and many of such differences in all the variants.
Regards,
Thomas Chin
FM Liew wrote:
> Thomas,
> /lok8/ is not enter. It suppose to be descend( coming down or
> fall ).
>
> Enter, in my 'Taibo Hak' is: yip or yip-ki.
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Dylan Sung
Re: Translations
Yes, I quite agree. My wife is from Longchuan near Heyuan in Guangdong, and she uses 入 /zip1/ (equivalent to /Nip5/ in my dialect). The pronunciation is rather like zip as in a fastener which you pull to close up a coat.
Come in a sit down is /lOk5 lOi11 ts'O33/ 落來坐
Dyl.
Come in a sit down is /lOk5 lOi11 ts'O33/ 落來坐
Dyl.
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Leslie Chong
Re: Translations
Thomas - I also speak the Bao On dialect. Do you know the character for "bod" as in "bod tai fung" (blowing up a big wind), it might be the same character in "bod wun" (affected by fever).
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Dylan Sung
Re: Translations
The character is 發 'fat5'. You may be wondering why, and the answer is because it is one of a number of characters which derive from an early stage in Chinese called Middle Chinese (MC).
At the MC stage the character 發 was something like pronounced something like piw@t or biw@t, notice the initial consonant. This later developed from two lip bilabial consonant b or p to lip-teeth labial-dental consonant f, as found in Hakka common readings. bot5 is thus a conservative preserved reading for the character.
Others include
fly 飛, fui1 bui1
fat 肥, fui2 pui2
bark 吠 poi4, but in Cantonese it is faai and in Mandarin fei
These remanant pronunciations tend to indicate that there are some ancient preserved distinctions in the Hakka spoken language.
Dyl.
At the MC stage the character 發 was something like pronounced something like piw@t or biw@t, notice the initial consonant. This later developed from two lip bilabial consonant b or p to lip-teeth labial-dental consonant f, as found in Hakka common readings. bot5 is thus a conservative preserved reading for the character.
Others include
fly 飛, fui1 bui1
fat 肥, fui2 pui2
bark 吠 poi4, but in Cantonese it is faai and in Mandarin fei
These remanant pronunciations tend to indicate that there are some ancient preserved distinctions in the Hakka spoken language.
Dyl.
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Natalie
Re: Translations
Hi, from one Chin to another,
I never knew what sort of Hakka I speak but I can relate to yours very closely with minor exceptions, eg: (sorry, I don't know the 1,2,3, etc relating to how it sounds like)
/lui2/ = money I say 'chen'
/t'en5 siu3/ = to help I say 'bong' for help
/moi2/ = porridge I say 'chook'
NC
I never knew what sort of Hakka I speak but I can relate to yours very closely with minor exceptions, eg: (sorry, I don't know the 1,2,3, etc relating to how it sounds like)
/lui2/ = money I say 'chen'
/t'en5 siu3/ = to help I say 'bong' for help
/moi2/ = porridge I say 'chook'
NC
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Thomas Chin
Re: Translations
Hi,
Actually, in my own Hakka dialect I only use /cen2/ (chen) for money and /zuk7/ (chook) for porridge.
I use both /bong1/ and /ten5 siu3/ for help. /ten5 siu3/ is rather universal for Hakka dialects and if you ask your Hakka-speaking relatives they most probably know it.
Regards,
Thomas
Actually, in my own Hakka dialect I only use /cen2/ (chen) for money and /zuk7/ (chook) for porridge.
I use both /bong1/ and /ten5 siu3/ for help. /ten5 siu3/ is rather universal for Hakka dialects and if you ask your Hakka-speaking relatives they most probably know it.
Regards,
Thomas
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Leslie Chong
Re: Translations
Do you know the character for "bod" as in "bod tai fung" (blowing up a big wind), it might be the same character in "bod vun" (being striken by fever).