Dialectal mystery

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Thomas

Dialectal mystery

Post by Thomas »

Hello,
I have a friend who is Chinese, born and raised in Saigon, and speaks Vietnamese (fluent), Cantonese (near-fluent), and *another* dialect of Chinese (barely). She did not know what the "other" Chinese dialect was called, but she did say that it was commonly spoken in Cambodia and Thailand, too. I have lost touch with my friend, but I always wondered what this "other" Chinese dialect may have been...
Any guesses?
Thomas

By the way...

Post by Thomas »

I am sorry if I caused any identity confusion: I am *not* Mr. Thomas Chan who also posts on this board.
Thomas Chan

Re: Dialectal mystery

Post by Thomas Chan »

: I have a friend who is Chinese, born and raised in Saigon, and speaks Vietnamese (fluent), Cantonese (near-fluent), and *another* dialect of Chinese (barely). She did not know what the "other" Chinese dialect was called, but she did say that it was commonly spoken in Cambodia and Thailand, too. I have lost touch with my friend, but I always wondered what this "other" Chinese dialect may have been...
: Any guesses?
It might be some kind of Minnan (aka Southern Min)
閩南, which is common in Southeast Asia.
According to the Summer Institute of Linguistics'
_Ethnologue_, 14th ed., Minnan Chinese makes up
18% of Chinese languages/dialects spoken in
Thailand[1].
[1] http://www.ethnologue.org/show_country. ... e=Thailand

Thomas Chan
tc31@cornell.edu
Lisa C

Re: By the way...

Post by Lisa C »

Just a guess, but there are a lot of people in Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam and Burma that are Teochew (Chaozhou). My friend is from Vietnam and speaks Teochew, but she says that is a rarity because in the market place and in businesses among the Chinese, Cantonese is the universal language. If she went to Chinese school then Mandarin was learned.
Lots of other groups migrated there too.
Thomas

Re: Dialectal mystery

Post by Thomas »

Thomas & Lisa:
Thank you. While I know it would be virtually impossible to know what dialect it is for sure, I do appreciate the ideas!
Thomas
Ben

Re: By the way...

Post by Ben »

I'm not an expert, but my guess would also be Teochew (in the Southern Min group, I think) since they were the biggest group in SE Asia. I read it was the "universal" dialect used in business during colonial times.
I think Vietnam is an exception because it's closest by land to southern Guangdong province, where Cantonese is spoken. I have several Cantonese relatives originally from Vietnam.
: Just a guess, but there are a lot of people in Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam and Burma that are Teochew (Chaozhou). My friend is from Vietnam and speaks Teochew, but she says that is a rarity because in the market place and in businesses among the Chinese, Cantonese is the universal language. If she went to Chinese school then Mandarin was learned.
: Lots of other groups migrated there too.
michael wang

Re: Dialectal mystery

Post by michael wang »

I'm not sure about Thailand, but aside from Cantonese, Chiujou is the most common Chinese "dialect" spoken in Cambodia. (I'm actually of Chinese-Cambodian descent, so I have some knowledge about this).

: Hello,
: I have a friend who is Chinese, born and raised in Saigon, and speaks Vietnamese (fluent), Cantonese (near-fluent), and *another* dialect of Chinese (barely). She did not know what the "other" Chinese dialect was called, but she did say that it was commonly spoken in Cambodia and Thailand, too. I have lost touch with my friend, but I always wondered what this "other" Chinese dialect may have been...
: Any guesses?
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