Please help translate 2 chinese name to Hokkien !

[Tien]

Hi,

Need help translating chinese names to hokkien:

1) 陈俊良 chen jun liang
2) 陈冠佑 chen guan you

Thanks for helping !

[xng]

陈俊良 Tan Cun Liong
陈冠佑 Tan Kuan Yiu (actually, it is 'IU' but it is difficult for non chinese to read)

[AndrewAndrew]

陈俊良 Tan Cun Liong
陈冠佑 Tan Kuan Yiu (actually, it is 'IU' but it is difficult for non chinese to read)

Tan Choon Leong, &
Tan Kuan Eu/Yew

would be the normal Malaysian/Singaporean spellings.

[Tien]

Thank you guys.. It help alot...

[xng]

陈俊良 Tan Cun Liong
陈冠佑 Tan Kuan Yiu (actually, it is 'IU' but it is difficult for non chinese to read)

Tan Choon Leong, &
Tan Kuan Eu/Yew

would be the normal Malaysian/Singaporean spellings.

You shouldn't use 'Ch' as that is usually the aspirated 'C'.

If Cun sounds like 'cunt' then maybe should approximate to 'Joon'.

It is just like the difference between Tan and Than.

[SimL]

You shouldn't use 'Ch' as that is usually the aspirated 'C'.

I disagree with this. The point xng makes is correct, but the "traditional Malay(si)an/Singapore" spelling usually didn't distinguish the Hokkien "ts" from "tsh" (i.e. the unaspirated vs aspirated affricate) - both were usually written "ch-"***. This is a nuisance and a pity, but as we all "live within a certain cultural context", I feel that it's fine to submit to some of the limitations of that particular cultural context.

This was (I feel) Andrew's original point anyway. If one lives in Malaysia/Singapore, and one wants to have a Hokkien name, then it's fine to conform to the "traditional Malay(si)an/Singapore" cultural tradition for writing this name in roman letters. For example, if one wants to name one's son "Boon Hock", then, one should spell it that way, instead of "Bun Hok", if one lives in Malaysia/Singapore.

But that's just my opinion. And xng's original point of the aspiration is also valid.

SimL
***: I do however have an uncle whose name is spelled "Chheng Hock".

[xng]

SimL
***: I do however have an uncle whose name is spelled "Chheng Hock".

The point is that English romanisation is inconsistent. If you romanised it as Chh, most people will be confused and will just simplify it to Ch. Then there will be no difference between Ch and c.

C in some cases becomes K in English eg. Cook. This is an idiosyncrasy of English.
And that would make K consonant obsolete if we were to follow English exactly.

To be consistent, all Kh, Th, Ch, Ph should be aspirated.

Using J is also not a perfect solution but its the closest in sound.... so it is up to the parents what they want to use.

[AndrewAndrew]

Or follow Tailo and use ts- and tsh-

[j_pusaka]

In some places 良 is pronounced as "liang"

[keviniango]

how do you pronounce in hokkien? thanks.
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