Pronounciation of 德

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Pronounciation of 德

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Hi,

I was wondering if someone can give me the Wu romanization/pronounciation of the character 德?
I have Mandarin: De; Yue (Cantonese): Dak; Minnan: Tek; and Hakka: Tiet.
I'm looking for as many different pronunciations as possible. (I also have Japanese: toku; Korean: tek; and Vietnamese: Tốt -- Ðức .
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It's pronounced almost the same as "de" in Mandarin, just shorter and more "explosive".
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Tom Higgins wrote:It's pronounced almost the same as "de" in Mandarin, just shorter and more "explosive".

Thanks Tom,

So, it doesn't have a final consonant like Cantonese, Min or Hakka?
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Post by ransek »

Bao Pu wrote:
Tom Higgins wrote:It's pronounced almost the same as "de" in Mandarin, just shorter and more "explosive".

Thanks Tom,

So, it doesn't have a final consonant like Cantonese, Min or Hakka?
It has a glottal stop [-ʔ]. In Wu the Middle Chinese 入聲 with final consonant [-p/-k/-t] have merged into the glottal stop.

In many romanization scheme this consonant is represented by "-k" or "-h".

In case of 德, the proper romanization should be "Tek" or "Teh".

In Mandarin the pronunciation should be "Te", and in Cantonese it should be "Tak". In these two languages there are no voiced plosives, so they can use "d" to represent "t", while "t" corresponds to "/t'/'. In Wu the three-way contrast of Middle Chinese stops and affricates(/t, t', d/) is persevered.

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ransek wrote: It has a glottal stop [-ʔ]. In Wu the Middle Chinese 入聲 with final consonant [-p/-k/-t] have merged into the glottal stop.

In many romanization scheme this consonant is represented by "-k" or "-h".

In case of 德, the proper romanization should be "Tek" or "Teh".

In Mandarin the pronunciation should be "Te", and in Cantonese it should be "Tak". In these two languages there are no voiced plosives, so they can use "d" to represent "t", while "t" corresponds to "/t'/'. In Wu the three-way contrast of Middle Chinese stops and affricates(/t, t', d/) is persevered.
Thanks alot Ransek,
Aside from the vowel then, it closely resembles Old Chinese (古漢語) tək
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Bao Pu wrote:Thanks alot Ransek,
Aside from the vowel then, it closely resembles Old Chinese (古漢語) tək
Well, sort of :?
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