The thread is getting kinda silly
Not too sure about the youtube links, but I believe the maps are pretty accurate.
Korean invented chinese language
Chinese language and Korean langauge
Dear All,
Rationally speaking, the fact may be like this:
* Korean originally had their own language, which was independent from Chinese language.
* During Tang Dynasty of China, Korean adopted Chinese characters in their language.
* At some stage of recent centuries, Korean removed Chinese characters from their language again.
It is not a rare thing in anthropology that different tribes' culture influence each other. The Han tribe Chinese itself has a mixture of many tribes' culture. For example, Buddhism was not from China but was brought to China by those minority tribes that lived in Xi-yu, or the western regions, which are the current Xinjiang and mid-asia. However, it became one of the main religion of whole China.
As for Chinese language, from its several thousands years of history, it should be said as originated from China instead of from Korea.
As an anthropological fact, many Asian languages have adopted some Chinese characters. It seemed that the Chinese did not colonize them to force this, but that they proactively went to China to learn Chinese culture by themselves during China's Tang dynasty, which was about 1000 years ago.
You can see a lot of Chinese characters in Japanese language. Additionally, the current Japanese culture is nearly a full copy of China's Tang Dynasty culture including its architecture, clothing, food etc.
Vietnamese language also adopted Chinese characters. Then when being occupied by French, I think they made the language latinized.
I actually have found that Koreans are systematically claiming their cultural independence from Chinese culture. It might because when China's economy is fast developing they feel threatened.
The aggressive gesture of China comes from China's governing regime which is still a Communist regime like the former Soviet Union. China's aggressiveness does not come from Chinese culture itself. It is a residue of the confrontation between the Communist camp and the free world camp during Stalin and Mao's time.
The Chinese culture itself is very peaceful and non-aggressive. So take it easy.
Rationally speaking, the fact may be like this:
* Korean originally had their own language, which was independent from Chinese language.
* During Tang Dynasty of China, Korean adopted Chinese characters in their language.
* At some stage of recent centuries, Korean removed Chinese characters from their language again.
It is not a rare thing in anthropology that different tribes' culture influence each other. The Han tribe Chinese itself has a mixture of many tribes' culture. For example, Buddhism was not from China but was brought to China by those minority tribes that lived in Xi-yu, or the western regions, which are the current Xinjiang and mid-asia. However, it became one of the main religion of whole China.
As for Chinese language, from its several thousands years of history, it should be said as originated from China instead of from Korea.
As an anthropological fact, many Asian languages have adopted some Chinese characters. It seemed that the Chinese did not colonize them to force this, but that they proactively went to China to learn Chinese culture by themselves during China's Tang dynasty, which was about 1000 years ago.
You can see a lot of Chinese characters in Japanese language. Additionally, the current Japanese culture is nearly a full copy of China's Tang Dynasty culture including its architecture, clothing, food etc.
Vietnamese language also adopted Chinese characters. Then when being occupied by French, I think they made the language latinized.
I actually have found that Koreans are systematically claiming their cultural independence from Chinese culture. It might because when China's economy is fast developing they feel threatened.
The aggressive gesture of China comes from China's governing regime which is still a Communist regime like the former Soviet Union. China's aggressiveness does not come from Chinese culture itself. It is a residue of the confrontation between the Communist camp and the free world camp during Stalin and Mao's time.
The Chinese culture itself is very peaceful and non-aggressive. So take it easy.
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silenceshm
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what makes me sick is people like "peterkim" posing as a korean trying to make koreans look like idiots and bring hate to korea. The original poster was "peter" not "peterkim." "peterkim" is probably chinese posing as a korean, trying to be a comedian, I know chinese people like doing that.. Look at his posts... He starts off fairly decent but gets more and more ridiculous as he goes on posing. He starts talking about samsung, worldcup, archery, kimchi, he double posts the same facts over and over, HE IS OBVIOUSLY A POSER TRYING TO MAKE KOREANS LOOK LIKE IDIOTS AND YOU ALL ARE FALLING FOR IT. WAKE UP!!! Then the kicker, He starts talking about garlic and green onions and about "al" and eggs etc.. Then he says lao tzu was korean everyone knows he was chinese!! Haven't you people realized by now that he is obviously clowning around? Hes doing a PARODY !! No but you all fall for it, then now you will talk shit about korean this korean that.. Lots of these ridiculous claims are from the INTERNET!! NOT FROM REAL PEOPLE!! Do you believe everything you read?? Koreans claiming confucius was korean or koreans built the great wall of china or korea invent chinese characters?? Do you think Koreans actually believe that?? It's as ridiculous as the Chinese claiming Goguryeo as Chinese. I myself and majority of Koreans know that korean culture is largely influenced by chinese culture. How can we not we are neighboring countries. Ancient Chinese culture is very huge and vast just like the Roman or Greek cultures. I want to tell the chinese people especially the young chinese to not believe everything they read on the internet. There are people out there that are trying to bring hate to Korea, It may be Chinese, Japanese, American, who knows..
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winniebree
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Re: Korean invented chinese language
Great, it help me a lot.
Thanks a ton.
Thanks a ton.
Re: Korean invented chinese language
..Any of you guys taken a look at that thread? It's just a bunch of koreans or pro-koreans hacking the topic into mincemeat by shouting insults at a couple of chinese (or pro-chinese) who are determined to return the favor. I do have a simple question though, for those of you knowledgeable in this field.
There's a lot of talk on that thread about some ancient korean history books which chronicle their 9200 year history or something. Since when did koreans have a writing system anytime before the common era(time of christ)?
Here's the quote:
"Sukgeun Jung" <skjung@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message
news:an2iib$kb6$1@gamera.cbl.umces.edu...
As today in 2002, the history of Korea is exactly 9,200 years, not vaguely
> 5,000 years. The number of year is not vague at al. Several ancient Korean
> history books recorded it. Whether you believe it or not is another
> question. The 9,200 years is not related to any religious belief, as the
> history books (such as Taebaek ilsa) are not religious texts
TANKS FOR THIS POST.
There's a lot of talk on that thread about some ancient korean history books which chronicle their 9200 year history or something. Since when did koreans have a writing system anytime before the common era(time of christ)?
Here's the quote:
"Sukgeun Jung" <skjung@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message
news:an2iib$kb6$1@gamera.cbl.umces.edu...
As today in 2002, the history of Korea is exactly 9,200 years, not vaguely
> 5,000 years. The number of year is not vague at al. Several ancient Korean
> history books recorded it. Whether you believe it or not is another
> question. The 9,200 years is not related to any religious belief, as the
> history books (such as Taebaek ilsa) are not religious texts
TANKS FOR THIS POST.
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Re: Korean invented chinese language
..Any of you guys taken a look at that thread? It's just a bunch of koreans or pro-koreans hacking the topic into mincemeat by shouting insults at a couple of chinese (or pro-chinese) who are determined to return the favor. I do have a simple question though, for those of you knowledgeable in this field.
There's a lot of talk on that thread about some ancient korean history books which chronicle their 9200 year history or something. Since when did koreans have a writing system anytime before the common era(time of christ)?
Here's the quote:
"Sukgeun Jung" <skjung@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message
news:an2iib$kb6$1@gamera.cbl.umces.edu...
As today in 2002, the history of Korea is exactly 9,200 years, not vaguely
> 5,000 years. The number of year is not vague at al. Several ancient Korean
> history books recorded it. Whether you believe it or not is another
> question. The 9,200 years is not related to any religious belief, as the
> history books (such as Taebaek ilsa) are not religious texts
TANKS FOR THIS POST.GUYS
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There's a lot of talk on that thread about some ancient korean history books which chronicle their 9200 year history or something. Since when did koreans have a writing system anytime before the common era(time of christ)?
Here's the quote:
"Sukgeun Jung" <skjung@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message
news:an2iib$kb6$1@gamera.cbl.umces.edu...
As today in 2002, the history of Korea is exactly 9,200 years, not vaguely
> 5,000 years. The number of year is not vague at al. Several ancient Korean
> history books recorded it. Whether you believe it or not is another
> question. The 9,200 years is not related to any religious belief, as the
> history books (such as Taebaek ilsa) are not religious texts
TANKS FOR THIS POST.GUYS
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