Where are the Teochews?

Discussions on the Hokkien (Minnan) language.
Leng

Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by Leng » Sat May 31, 2003 7:13 am

I am living in Bangkok where Teochew people are the majority among minorities. Many old generation still speak and practice Teochew tradition.
And most of major cities in Thailand have a lot of Teochew people.
Hokkien is 2nd largest minority group in Thailand.
kim ang

Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by kim ang » Tue Jul 15, 2003 11:23 am

There are lots of teochews in Northern and Southern Malaysia. Towns in Penang and Kedah have a lot of Teochews people such as Bukit Mertajam, Butterworth and Sungai Petani. However, most of them are speaking Hokkien as their mother tongue. Most of my teochews friends in Penang speak Hokkien with their parents. The opera Shows in Bukit Mertajam are all in Teochews.

Pontian, Batu Pahat, Ayer Hitam and some towns in Johor also have a lot of Teochews people. But most of the younger generation prefers to speak Mandarin, just like the Singaporean teochews who prefers Mandarin.

Teochew forms the fourth largest group (among chinese) in Malaysia. RTM Radio-5 broadcasts news in teochew at 9pm every day.

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zenboy

Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by zenboy » Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:54 am

Hi all,
I'm from Dabo Singkep - Riau - Indonesia. Chinese in Batam island and Tanjung Pinang are mostly Teochew. They still have their tradition. Pontianak has so many Teochew also, but Chinese in Medan are mostly Hokkien. Does anyone know where 'Deng Goa' is? My grandparents are form there.
Chen Cien Kuo

Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by Chen Cien Kuo » Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:17 pm

I'm Teochew from Indonesia. I'm from a city 20-km away from Medan. Chinese in Medan speak Hokkien ( the same with Penang Hokkien ), but the people in my hometown called Brahrang, speaks Teochew. Teochew communities in Indonesia can be found at Riau, Pontianak and some suburb area in Medan and somewhere else. I really interested the homepage about Teochew. I wish I can learn more about pure Teochew, because Teochew I'm speaking got strong influence from Bahasa and Hokkien.

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Casey

Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by Casey » Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:16 am

Hi, Zenboy

I suspect that "Deng Goa" is the twisted sound of "Tang5 Ua*1" or 同安. It is the name of a county in the Fujian Province.

Casey
Niuc

Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by Niuc » Tue Jun 22, 2004 2:12 pm

"Deng Goa" does sound like "Tang5 Ua*1" (Hokkien) but from what I know, people in Dabo Singkep are either Teochew or Hakka. Zenboy, how about you?

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Ang Teck Gie

Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by Ang Teck Gie » Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:50 am

i am from indonesia,national cencus 1930 told us that chinese population in our country 1,250,000 and 2,509,000 at 1961,hokkiens form the majority in java,madura,bali,sumatera,celebes and east indonesia islands,the details all indonesia hokkiens 53%,kheh 21%,cantonese 10%,teocew9%,others7% .the teocew and hokkien languages very close,we can find teocew majority in riau islands,north sumatera,jambi,west kalimantan,may this data useful for us,....da jia dou shi hua ren.............
Niuc

Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by Niuc » Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:00 pm

Hi Teck Gie :)

Thanks a lot for the info. Could you tell us where do you get the statistics? Is it on web?

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ang teck gie

Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by ang teck gie » Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:53 am

niuc, li ho bo? i got the statistics from the national central statistic bureau in jakarta, now if u come to jkt and all cities in java ,u can hear nativepeople or the chinese etnics talking money or any other words in hokkien and a little bit teocew just like cet cheng(Rp.1,000) go cheng(Rp.5,000)go ban(Rp.50,000) ket kee(getting angry) cheng lee(the truth) jia be leau(cannot finish eating) even the chinese lunar calender in hokkien, like; peh gwee cap go (15th of 8th month), niuc if u like statistic pls come to ind,we welcome u...
ang teck gie

Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by ang teck gie » Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:28 am

da jia hau......niuc, or all phorum viewers, talking statistic very interesting, i tell more statistic of chinese population in our country,dan the folllowing statistic, city name(chinese etnic number/total city number)...........jakarta metropolitan(+- 600,000/9,000,000)...surabaya(+-230,000/3,300,000)...medan(300,000/1,950,000)...bandung(150,000/1,900,000)...palembang(130,000/1,500,000)... makasar(75,000/1,300,000)...semarang(150,000/1,700,000)...padang(23,000/750,000)...pekanbaru(30,000/590,000)...pontianak(150,000/450,000)...bandarlampung(45,000/750,000)...batam(45,000/450,000)...singkawang(70,000/90,000)...tanjungpinang(45,000/115,000)...samarinda(15,000/530,000)...banjarmasen(19,000/530,000)...menado(30,000/450,000)...bali(35,000/3,000,000) may this info useful for us, what about your country ?
Niuc

Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by Niuc » Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:57 pm

Hi Teck Gie :)

Thanks a lot for the information. Actually I am an Indonesian Chinese working in Singapore. My hometown is in Riau but we moved to Jakarta in 1991.

How do you get the figures? Is it published by national central statistic bureau (Biro Statistik Nasional apa Biro Statistik Negara ya?)? Is it on the web? What is the address of its website?

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uti

Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by uti » Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:53 am

Dajia hao!

I want to know about teochiu dialects. Could u help me please? Thanks before.
uti

Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by uti » Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:54 am

Dajia hao!

I want to know about teochiu dialects. Could u help me please? Thanks before.

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ang teck gie

Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by ang teck gie » Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:26 am

niuc.... ni hao ma! i live in jkt n come from riau mainland,am a teocew lived in hokkien majority bagansiapiapi riau,i got the statistic from national central board of statistic(badan pusat statistik) or bureau of central statistik(biro pusat statistik) r u interested at this data,if u like more infos,i'll give u whatever chinese indos info in the next. very very glad discuss with u all viewers in this phorum,hopefully we all can make a good friendship,eventhough u r from hokkien,hakka,teocew,kwongfu,hainam,hockcew,hockcea,etc welllllcommeee.....wa xi teo cew nang...gua xi hok kien lang...da jia dou shi hua ren.....zi ji ren...
niucls

Re: Where are the Teochews?

Post by niucls » Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:48 am

Hi Teck Gie :)

Thanks a lot for the info. I am glad to know you here. 'gua2 ma7 si7 ba5 gan2 lang5' (I am also from Bagansiapiapi) :D. 'ly2 ba5 gan2 khia7 to`5? si7 m7 si7 khia7 ting2 pa1?' (Where did you live in Bagan? Was it 'ting2 pa1' = upper / southern area = area where many Teochew live)?

Yes, I am interested in the BSP data. Is it available in book or web?

For you & also uti, there is a wonderful Teochew website by our friend Lim Eng Di : http://www.gaginang.org .

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