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by Helmut
Mon Oct 15, 2001 10:14 pm
Forum: Cantonese language forum
Topic: Correct way to say "money" in Cantonese?
Replies: 17
Views: 29677

Re: Yale typing

Hi Eugene, sorry, all I can do is putting rising or falling accents on top of a vowel. In a six-tone scheme, you can use the falling accent for the high level tone, though. Another problem, you cannot put an accent on top of 'm' or 'ng'. Here is how I did it (on the English version of both Windows 9...
by Helmut
Fri Oct 12, 2001 11:48 pm
Forum: Cantonese language forum
Topic: Greeny questions from greeny person...;-)
Replies: 2
Views: 6677

Re: Greeny questions from greeny person...;-)

My view. : OK. How deep then I gotta know other languages : of China ,including Cantonese & Hakka? Better stick to Mandarin first. It is difficult enough on its own. You should learn Cantonese or any other specific Chinese language only if you have a specific exposure to that dialect (e.g. you live ...
by Helmut
Fri Oct 12, 2001 11:19 pm
Forum: Cantonese language forum
Topic: Correct way to say "money" in Cantonese?
Replies: 17
Views: 29677

Re: I need to learn JyutPing

: My problem is that I do not understand the numbering system in JyutPing. Tone 1: high level flat (or falling) Tone 2: rising to high level Tone 3: mid level flat Tone 4: low level falling Tone 5: rising to mid level Tone 6: low level flat This system is also used by other romanization systems, e.g...
by Helmut
Fri Oct 05, 2001 10:35 am
Forum: Cantonese language forum
Topic: Correct way to say "money" in Cantonese?
Replies: 17
Views: 29677

Re: I'm confused

Hi Eugene, the confusion seems to be caused mainly by different ways, how to identify tones. The spoken ("informal") Cantonese word for money (Yale: chin, Jyutping: cin) has the same tone as the word for the number nine. No change since the 1970s. Modern books refer to that tone usually as tone numb...
by Helmut
Sun Sep 30, 2001 6:14 pm
Forum: Cantonese language forum
Topic: Cantonese Revision Sheets
Replies: 6
Views: 17362

Re: Suggestion

Hi Adam, well, it is quite a long story. 1. Standards ------------ First of all, let me say that I do not oppose anyone inventing and using his own phonetic spelling for Cantonese. I have done that myself. However, what is confusing and what is natural, depends on one's origin, on which other langua...
by Helmut
Wed Sep 26, 2001 9:53 pm
Forum: Cantonese language forum
Topic: Cantonese Revision Sheets
Replies: 6
Views: 17362

Suggestion

Hi Adam ! I checked out your site and found it quite promising. My suggestion for improvement: drop the idea to invent your own romanization. Better use a common standard. I suggest either Yale, because it is good and used by most textbooks, or Yuetpin, which to me appears to be the best available y...
by Helmut
Tue Aug 07, 2001 9:27 pm
Forum: Cantonese language forum
Topic: Pronouncing "ch"
Replies: 5
Views: 10064

Re: Pronouncing "ch"

Thanks for your views on the problem. Actually, just as you propose, I do model my pronounciation after native speakers. They come from HK and they do make the difference which I described. So comparing that to what you said, it seems that even in a geographically small place like HK, there are diff...
by Helmut
Tue Aug 07, 2001 9:24 pm
Forum: Cantonese language forum
Topic: Pronouncing "ch"
Replies: 5
Views: 10064

Re: Thanks !

Thanks ! I am looking forward to that.
Helmut
by Helmut
Wed Jul 04, 2001 11:04 pm
Forum: Cantonese language forum
Topic: Pronouncing "ch"
Replies: 5
Views: 10064

Pronouncing "ch"

Maybe someone can help me with the following Cantonese pronunciation problem. It seems that there are two different ways to pronounce the initial consonant "ch" (Yale romanisation), depending on the following vowel. One is like 'ts' (as in 'ants' in English), e.g. "chin(2)" = 'money'. The other is m...
by Helmut
Wed Jun 27, 2001 10:58 pm
Forum: Cantonese language forum
Topic: Learning Cantonese from scratch
Replies: 16
Views: 47033

Re: Tape courses - what they are like

Hi Eugene, you gave me already a pretty good idea about the two courses. Thanks a lot ! My language learning strategy is to work through many different courses one after the other in order to broaden my base before advancing to the next level. It had served me well before with another language, so I...
by Helmut
Sun Jun 17, 2001 11:53 pm
Forum: Cantonese language forum
Topic: Learning Cantonese from scratch
Replies: 16
Views: 47033

Re: Learning Cantonese from scratch

Eugene,
once you have finished the two courses. Could you tell more about these two courses and what you think about them ?
I was a bit shocked by the price and really wonder whether they are worth it.
200 words seems pretty few to me, even for a beginners course.
Thanks
Helmut
by Helmut
Sun Jun 17, 2001 11:43 pm
Forum: Cantonese language forum
Topic: Learning Cantonese from scratch
Replies: 16
Views: 47033

Re: Learning Cantonese from scratch

Kevin, I was in a similar situation. In the meantime I worked through a number of courses with books and tapes. Of all those the best one seemed to be "Colloquial Cantonese" from Routledge. It has been published in the 1990s, so its language is reasonably modern. It uses Yale romanisation which is b...
by Helmut
Fri May 25, 2001 10:27 pm
Forum: Cantonese language forum
Topic: Kantonesisches
Replies: 4
Views: 9493

Re: Kantonesisches

Ich spreche Deutsch und lerne seit mehreren Jahren Kantonesisch. Wenn ich helfen kann . . .
I do speak German and have been learning Cantonese for several years now. If I can be of any help . . .